Caller Adriene's Question: "This question is for your last podcast regarding what works and doesn’t work in betrayal trauma recovery. I do agree with everything that was said in there. However, as someone who has been through betrayal trauma, addiction with her spouse, and abuse with her spouse I just wish the abuse part could be validated a little bit more. I agree that the abuse model can keep us stuck so we need to change up the model a little bit. However, once I learned about abuse and put a name to what I was experiencing that was when full healing began and I stopped being the fantasy wife for my husband and really upped my safety and boundaries. That’s actually what made him want to change. When we just focused on the addiction it ended up feeding his entitlement and integrity problems. So in my opinion knowing about the emotional and psychological abuse of an addict changes everything. At least it did for me. do you think that addiction and abuse are two separate things but that addiction can exaggerate abuse tenfold?"   Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.   Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!   Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

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